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Students Conduct and Disciplinary Code

Hardik Ruparel — Thu, 24 Jul 2008 07:03:11 +0000

Let’s demystify the Students Conduct and Disciplinary Code put up on NITT.edu by the Senate. I interpreted what I could understand. Please check out and comment on my website.

Check it out here : adaywithoutchocolate.com

Its boring!

vijay — Thu, 24 Jul 2008 06:49:01 +0000

Let us talk about Indian cars. When you look into a buyer’s guide of Indian cars you will come across endless boring shapes those seem to have been designed by a Human relations manager. Just have a look at their interiors, it is pretty much as you would expect, hopeless. We are not talking about luxury cars, sports cars, tidy roadsters, super cars or brilliant cars by any means. This is India. Here all the form follows the function. All the cars here do not perform very well, nor are they well made either. If they add buttocks to a hatch and name it an entry level sedan it will sell well, they say. Or they can even shave an SUV and name it a saloon. A box sitting on a suspension with a stupid engine and good efficiency figures is the best car for people over here. Here number of occupants is of more concern than the engine capacity. They do not worry if a car corners like a hippo. They save some money by getting a variant that is not equipped with ABS and Airbags. As a result the Indian roads look something much worse than mind-numbingly boring. There is an advertisement not to mention the firm; the manufacturer claimed the car had cruise control, ABS, traction control and parking sensors. The car was said to be loaded with technology. Some cars in eighties had these technologies. So is it the manufacturers or the customers those can be blamed? Actually both must be blamed. It is not that the engineers do not have brains, they use it differently rather. All cars sold in India are engineered to be sold at a better price, rather than be sold as a better car. Let us put it this way. If you compare a typical car running on Indian roads and a world class car, the Indian car will be half as good but will cost a third or even less. So, why not sell cars here that are almost as good as the best European cars and cost half as much as per that equation. So you get my point. Indian automobile market is brilliant in its own way. What we need to do is scale up things a bit. The reason why other Asian countries are thriving is they sell better cars than Indian companies that are cheaper than European cars. India being a beautiful country deserves much better cars than it has if not better then Europeans. All we now want is cars that are half as well engineered as the Porsches and Beemers, a third as passionate as Ferraris and Lambos, a fifth as well made as Mercedes and Nissans, a tenth as lovable as Mustangs and Astons and priced as good as the Indians. I will be the happiest man if the Indian roads become what they deserve to be.

Entering New Vistas…

vigneswaralu — Thu, 24 Jul 2008 03:05:43 +0000

By all means my life has completely changed. The perpetual grim was evicted by a ray of hope, splendour that brought along with viva of such measures that I have never encountered in my life. Groping for moments has come to be daily habit and bliss beyond measures is cliché. Since dwelling on individualistic bliss may offend the societal super beings, I will stay from what may be known as true bliss.

When one enters a new life, I have always thought, situation grapples the soul and one ends in extreme joy or misery. Strangely enough, neither has occurred to me so far. Agreed on a personal front a complete flip has occurred but socially I’m neither great nor nobody. I don’t feel proud or low. Quest for a possible explanation, I warn you, will be nothing short of a wild goose chase but to make things simpler let’s conclude better things may come along and pitfalls are not very uncommon either.

Pardon me, for ramblings have always had a beautiful relationship with me and habits die hard. When you start writing after long and are confounded by the fact that your language has changed for better or worse, things take time getting used to. Never did it occur to me that drastic change and plethora of things to discuss will change style.

As I try to recollect my subject, Music drifts into my room, one of my most favourite films and a song that is very sentimental. Happy Days… How aptly named.. and Lo!! Behold, I’m having the happiest days of my life and what more I know how to make it last. Somebody told

“To fall in love with oneself is the beginning of a lifelong bliss”

True that I have fallen in love with myself, a different embodiment of myself.

For days that will come and for days that went past, I have become the true me and I’ve have no fears. Here I start writing my blog again, a much matured version, I hope to bring to thy readers the pleasure of understanding what we were meant to understand ab-initio

Do drop in and I promise I’ll post more frequently. For those of you who feel password protection of posts is wrong, I don’t think I’ll do it again, for a new method seems more effective. Hail Caesar!!!

Adieu

A speech worth reading once

LCR — Wed, 23 Jul 2008 18:53:58 +0000

I got this text of speech of CHETAN BHAGAT’s at Symbiosis from a friend today morning. I liked it a lot except a sentence in which he said ‘Love yourself first, and then others.’ READ THIS ONCE and i am sure you would also like the thoughts

“Good Morning everyone and thank you for giving me this chance to speak to you. This day is about you. You, who have come to this college, leaving the comfort of your homes (or in some cases discomfort), to become something in your life. I am sure you are excited. There are few days in human life when one is truly elated. The first day in college is one of them. When you were getting ready today, you felt a tingling in your stomach. What would the auditorium be like, what would the teachers be like, who are my new classmates - there is so much to be curious about. I call this excitement, the spark within you that makes you feel truly alive today. Today I am going to talk about keeping the spark shining. Or to put it another way, how to be happy most, if not all the time.

Where do these sparks start? I think we are born with them. My 3-year old twin boys have a million sparks. A little Spiderman toy can make them jump on the bed. They get thrills from creaky swings in the park. A story from daddy gets them excited. They do a daily countdown for birthday party - several months in advance - just for the day they will cut their own birthday cake.

I see students like you, and I still see some sparks. But when I see older people, the spark is difficult to find. That means as we age, the spark fades. People whose spark has faded too much are dull, dejected, aimless and bitter. Remember Kareena in the first half of Jab We Met vs the second half? That is what happens when the spark is lost. So how to save the spark? Imagine the spark to be a lamp’s flame. The first aspect is nurturing - to give your spark the fuel, continuously. The second is to guard against storms.

To nurture, always have goals. It is human nature to strive, improve and achieve full potential. In fact, that is success. It is what is possible for you. It isn’t any external measure - a certain cost to company pay package, a particular car or house.

Most of us are from middle class families. To us, having material landmarks is success and rightly so. When you have grown up where money constraints force everyday choices, financial freedom is a big achievement. But it isn’t the purpose of life. If that was the case, Mr. Ambani would not show up for work. Shah Rukh Khan would stay at home and not dance anymore. Steve Jobs won’t be working hard to make a better iPhone, as he sold Pixar for billions of dollars already. Why do they do it? What makes them come to work everyday? They do it because it makes them happy. They do it because it makes them feel alive. Just getting better from current levels feels good. If you study hard, you can improve your rank. If you make an effort to interact with people, you will do better in interviews. If you practice, your cricket will get better. You may also know that you cannot become Tendulkar, yet. But you can get to the next level. Striving for that next level is important.

Nature designed with a random set of genes and circumstances in which we were born. To be happy, we have to accept it and make the most of nature’s design. Are you? Goals will help you do that.

I must add, don’t just have career or academic goals. Set goals to give you a balanced, successful life. I use the word balanced before successful. Balanced means ensuring your health, relationships, mental peace are all in good order. There is no point of getting a promotion on the day of your breakup. There is no fun in driving a car if your back hurts. Shopping is not enjoyable if your mind is full of tensions.

You must have read some quotes - Life is a tough race, it is a marathon or whatever. No, from what I have seen so far, life is one of those races in nursery school, where you have to run with a marble in a spoon kept in your mouth. If the marble falls, there is no point coming first. Same with life, where health and relationships are the marble. Your striving is only worth it if there is harmony in your life. Else, you may achieve the success, but this spark, this feeling of being excited and alive, will start to die.

One last thing about nurturing the spark - don’t take life seriously. One of my yoga teachers used to make students laugh during classes. One student asked him if these jokes would take away something from the yoga practice. The teacher said - don’t be serious, be sincere. This quote has defined my work ever since. Whether its my writing, my job, my relationships or any of my goals. I get thousands of opinions on my writing everyday. There is heaps of praise, there is intense criticism. If I take it all seriously, how will I write? Or rather, how will I live? Life is not to be taken seriously, as we are really temporary here. We are like a pre-paid card with limited validity. If we are lucky, we may last another 50 years. And 50 years is just 2,500 weekends. Do we really need to get so worked up? It’s ok, bunk a few classes, goof up a few interviews, fall in love. We are people, not programmed devices.

I’ve told you three things - reasonable goals, balance and not taking it too seriously that will nurture the spark. However, there are four storms in life that will threaten to completely put out the flame. These must be guarded against. These are disappointment, frustration, unfairness and loneliness of purpose.

Disappointment will come when your effort does not give you the expected return. If things don’t go as planned or if you face failure. Failure is extremely difficult to handle, but those that do come out stronger. What did this failure teach me? is the question you will need to ask. You will feel miserable. You will want to quit, like I wanted to when nine publishers rejected my first book. Some IITians kill themselves over low grades - how silly is that? But that is how much failure can hurt you. But it’s life. If challenges could always be overcome, they would cease to be a challenge. And remember - if you are failing at something, that means you are at your limit or potential. And that’s where you want to be.

Disappointment’s cousin is frustration, the second storm. Have you ever been frustrated? It happens when things are stuck. This is especially relevant in India. From traffic jams to getting that job you deserve, sometimes things take so long that you don’t know if you chose the right goal. After books, I set the goal of writing for Bollywood, as I thought they needed writers. I am called extremely lucky, but it took me five years to get close to a release. Frustration saps excitement, and turns your initial energy into something negative, making you a bitter person. How did I deal with it? A realistic assessment of the time involved - movies take a long time to make even though they are watched quickly, seeking a certain enjoyment in the process rather than the end result - at least I was learning how to write scripts, having a side plan - I had my third book to write and even something as simple as pleasurable distractions in your life - friends, food, travel can help you overcome it. Remember, nothing is to be taken seriously. Frustration is a sign somewhere, you took it too seriously.

Unfairness - this is hardest to deal with, but unfortunately that is how our country works. People with connections, rich dads, beautiful faces, pedigree find it easier to make it - not just in Bollywood, but everywhere. And sometimes it is just plain luck. There are so few opportunities in India, so many stars need to be aligned for you to make it happen. Merit and hard work is not always linked to achievement in the short term, but the long term correlation is high, and ultimately things do work out. But realize, there will be some people luckier than you. In fact, to have an opportunity to go to college and understand this speech in English means you are pretty damm lucky by Indian standards.. Let’s be grateful for what we have and get the strength to accept what we don’t. I have so much love from my readers that other writers cannot even imagine it. However, I don’t get literary praise. It’s ok. I don’t look like Aishwarya Rai, but I have two boys who I think are more beautiful than her.. It’s ok. Don’t let unfairness kill your spark.

Finally, the last point that can kill your spark is isolation. As you grow older you will realize you are unique. When you are little, all kids want Ice cream and Spiderman. As you grow older to college, you still are a lot like your friends. But ten years later and you realize you are unique. What you want, what you believe in, what makes you feel, may be different from even the people closest to you. This can create conflict as your goals may not match with others. . And you may drop some of them. Basketball captains in college invariably stop playing basketball by the time they have their second child. They give up something that meant so much to them. They do it for their family. But in doing that, the spark dies. Never, ever make that compromise. Love yourself first, and then others. There you go. I’ve told you the four thunderstorms - disappointment, frustration, unfairness and isolation. You cannot avoid them, as like the monsoon they will come into your life at regular intervals. You just need to keep the raincoat handy to not let the spark die.

I welcome you again to the most wonderful years of your life. If someone gave me the choice to go back in time, I will surely choose college. But I also hope that ten years later as well, your eyes will shine the same way as they do today. That you will Keep the Spark alive, not only through college, but through the next 2,500 weekends. And I hope not just you, but my whole country will keep that spark alive, as we really need it now more than any moment in history. And there is something cool about saying - I come from the land of a billion sparks. “

:) ?

a fan — Wed, 23 Jul 2008 17:23:00 +0000

well, i think the blogging bug has stuck me…anything i read and everything i think seems to become a blog post or draft or atleast a thought in mind as, “hmm… this is worth noting down in the blog”. And this is seriously affecting all my other activities of reading “A Secular Agenda”, watching a movie or even listening to music…

On top of all that, did my humour levels just go up suddenly? no…it’s quite not possible, with so many frustrations and confusions in life,yes,highly unlikely, how can i be or feel happy, isn’t it a crime to be happy today which might lead to be unhappy tomorrow ;)…it’s the reverse logic of “if dawn follows dusk, so does the dusk follows the dawn”… ;)

or did i smoke something? :)

see this,

“We believe that the bridge is not a man-made structure but a superman-made structure destroyed by Lord Ram himself.”

so we had a superman in BCs…:)

one more,

RJD leader and Railway Minister Lalu Prasad demanded that a narco test be conducted on the BJP members who alleged that they were offered bribe to remain absent during the trust vote.“Yeh sab jali hai. (This is all planted),” Prasad said and demanded

isn’t he trying to dig his own grave? ;)

one more,

“There are some people in the country who do not want India to catch up with China. They do not want India to be ahead of China,” said Chidambaram without naming anyone.

aren’t the 2 statements related to “catchup” and “ahead” quite contradictory to each other? :)

and the last one,

Bond-fund guru Mr. Gross, a founder of Pimco, does yoga five days a week and says some of his best ideas come when he is standing on his head, or sirsasana, supported by the forearms on the floor.

At the end of the hour-and-a-half-long session, Mr. Cortese lay on his back for a few minutes of relaxation, or savasana. He dozed off, snoring lightly. When he awoke, he bounded upstairs to check the market on his computer.

Sujai, probably we should smuggle our Yoga teacher to US or UK :) :)

It still haunts me…

ImwatIm — Wed, 23 Jul 2008 00:03:54 +0000

The memories of that fateful night still haunt me.Thinking of that dark night still gives me nightmares.Even today i wake up in the dark of the night , terribly terrified, when i think of what happened that night.

I am not referring to an encounter with a ghost or the night before any college exam , where only a night out stands between you and failure, i am talking about what is known as The Death of NITT Dream. Every student who has ever stepped on NITT soil and has even a remote interest in sports dreams of winning the very prestigious RUBY CUP of NITT. I too dreamt of it ever since i first heard of it in the college. I made a good start to fulfilling my dream when my team reached the quarter-finals in second year before we were brutally defeated by our seniors. After giving a very disappointing performance in third year,we were all determined to give it one last try to live those moments of glory in final year.

I vowed to myself before the final year Ruby cup began that i will win this year’s cup at any cost. I was at my best through-out the tournament. I gave some scintillating performances with both bat and ball to bail my team of many crisis situations. Our persistent efforts paid off as we reached the finals after toiling in for weeks.With our arch rivals too in the final,it had all the making of a grand final.I too knew that all my efforts would go in vain if i falter at the most crucial stage.I was geared up to rip the opposition apart with my toe-crushing yorkers.But it

was much tougher than it initially seemed.

We managed to make a paltry 59 in the allotted 20 overs because of the high-quality bowling of the opposition.The total would have been much lesser but i was able to pull together some late order partnerships after our famed top order had caved in.We did an excellent task of restricting them to 44-6 in 18 overs.We had managed to contain the opposition thanks to some spirited bowling and fielding by our team.With me and Pada,the greatest bowler to have stepped in NITT,each having one over things were pretty much under control.But then there was another twist to the tale.

Everyone was expecting that Pada would bowl the last over and let me bowl the penultimate over.But thanks to his nightmarish experience in Wisdom cup,where he was hit for a last bowl six to eliminate us from the tournament,he gave the himalayan task of bowling the last over to me. But i was still pretty cool with it because i was assuming that Pada,as economical a bowler we know him to be, would provide me with plenty of runs to defend in the final over. But as they say -Cricket is a game of surprises. And then we saw one.Pada bowled the worst six balls of his life conceding 13 runs and all of a sudden we were on the recieving end. When i was given the ball,everyone on and off the ground had given any hope of our victory. But i was determined to snatch my dream from the jaws of defeat.Let’s see what happened next.

I sent a screeching yorker the first ball and the batsman could not even touch it. 5 balls to go with 2 runs to win.Their main batsman holed out in the next ball. It was getting extremely interesting by the minute. Another dot ball reduced the equation to 3 balls and 2 runs. Things turned in our favour as i took two successive wickets of the next two balls.I was totally exhausted because i was putting intense effort in each ball.But i couldn’t have stopped here.I had to bowl one more ball before i could accomplish my college dream.I ran with every single bit of energy in my body and fired the perfect yorker. On seeing that the batsman could not manage to touch it,i fell to the ground thinking that it’s over, i have finally snatched my dream from the jaws of defeat. But then the unexpected happened.The batsman ran even though the ball was in keeper’s hand.Adverse situations often hamper your ability to think.The keeper for some inexplicable reason did not hit the stumps on his end and threw the ball in my direction, much to my shock.And the fielder who was supposed to backup the throws from the keeper made a complete mess of what was a simple run-out at the non-striker’s end.And before we could realise we had lost the match,we had trampled our cherished dream beneath our own feet.The final year juntaa who had already started celebrating as soon as i bowled the ball,suddenly turned silent.The players on the field just watched each other shocked.I too blacked out for some time.Then i slowly regained myself and headed towards the loneliest part of my hostel terrace where i stayed through-out the night thinking about what happened on the field but my mind didn’t seem to work.All i could feel that time was a flood of emotions in my heart and the painful tears in my eyes.I lay there whole night feeling so frightened.I tried to calm myself and sleep but the painful memories kept haunting me throughout the night.

A lot of time has passed since that dark night.My friends still regard my final over performance as one of the best bowling spells in Ruby cup.Victory or defeat is a part of the game,they say.I try to think rationally about the whole night.But soon it turns out to be a nightmare.I keep thinking what if i had bowled the batsman out or what if i had mustered the last bit of energy in my body and jumped to stop the wayward throw of the keeper? My mind is flooded with millions of “what if” questions.It still haunts me….

Has the Empire struck back correctly, atlast?

a fan — Tue, 22 Jul 2008 22:00:00 +0000

Last month, i wanted to write a post with the Title,”Empire strikes back”.

Never made it…but i did send a mail with the link to friends…

so, now comes a post with the same news but with additional info.

The latest news in search market ranking is,in June, Microsoft gains 0.7% of market share… which is around 9% rise in Microsoft’s market share in a month.

I expected or lets say hoped that this will happen in June. All because of the innovative idea introduced by Microsoft.

http://search.live.com/cashback

Many might argue that this is not a real new innovative idea firstly deployed by MS. Agreed :)… but they have tried to do something different in the search space..

The point which i liked the most is, Microsoft might know very well that neither this will help in gaining tremendous market share nor this will impact its revenue bottomline…

But the act is in line with what Google does with its spreadsheets and docs…because even those are not helping Google boost its revenues…it’s merely an exploring attempt…

so what’s in store for me? :)

quite nothing! …as i don’t own any shares of these companies…

but i am sure this competition will lead to many more innovations which inturn will be beneficial to the end customers and will be interesting to bystanders like me ;)

Onboard flight CZ 359/360

Arvind — Tue, 22 Jul 2008 20:47:06 +0000

Usually I fly Singapore Airlines to get to Guangzhou from India but this time I decided to take the newly introduced China Southern flight from Delhi to Guangzhou. Taking some flights in and around China, China southern seemed to be good (especially on the Beijing routes with the new Boeing 777s and the A330s) except for the food (well Chinese food isn’t really my thing!). But my experience from Delhi to Guangzhou and vice versa made me take a second thought on flying this route again.

The flight from Delhi to Guangzhou was timed at 3:00am. I was supposed to depart on May 22 early morning, but because they took off Thursdays from Delhi to Guangzhou that time I departed on the 23rd (They didn’t even telephone me to inform this. My dad happened to run into their schedule at their site and told me to look up on it at Delhi and I went to their office to change the schedule.)

Because of all the news on congestion at New Delhi Airport and securities taking so long, I decided to leave my uncle’s house at 23:00 (for a flight at 3am). I was at the airport by 23:15 (very surprising as I had seen photos of long queues outside the airport with people waiting to get in) and when i went to the check in counter of China Southern, they told me to wait as they were closed (it seems check in counters only open 3 hours before departure).

The people at the check in counter were nice but they wanted to charge me excess baggage charges. I don’t mind that but they didn’t say anything till I asked how much the baggage weighed. But I talked to them and finished checking in without paying. Proceeding to immigration and security, I thought they were going to be very crowded as I read in the news, so I sat down to refresh my legs in order to stand for another 40 minutes or so. However I got through immigration and security within 15 minutes too!

So there I was at Delhi having to wait for 2 hours for my flight. I was one of very few China southern passengers waiting amongst hundreds of Lufthansa and British airways passengers. After walking around and sleeping for a bit boarding was announced at 2 itself (very surprising, an hour before departure boarding).

Entering the flight I thought I could just sleep off and enjoy. But there was this very nasty smell of the toilet that was very inbearable. The aircraft wasn’t a nice one as i thought it would be. It was some old Boeing 757 that they haven’t even redesigned recently. There were so few passengers and I had the three seats in the row all to myself. Hence i lied down and slept off.

The flight took off at 245 itself which was good and landed in Guangzhou an hour before schedule but the service wasn’t so good. I was expecting some breakfast in the morning but I didn’t get any and the air crew hardly knew any English. So I went home and slept off because of a bad nights sleep.

I wanted to change dates on my return trip, but when I went to their office they didn’t even know when the flights were to New Delhi. I couldn’t change my date as they cut down on their international services due to fuel costs and not enough passengers. On another day i wanted to reconfirm my trip and they told me I had to do it on phone! What a waste of time and energy walking all the way to their office (it wasn’t really far from my house but they should have these kind of services in their offices). So I telephoned them and confirmed my ticket and my Indian Vegetarian meal request which wasn’t processed properly as I found out in the check-in counter the next day.

At Guangzhou airport the check-in queues were quite long and I had to wait for about fifteen minutes to check-in. Not such good service especially since Guangzhou is the headquarters of China Southern. I boarded the flight expecting a decent aircraft this time at least since their flights were cut down but this time too they flew a Boeing 757. I thought of boarding last as my seat was close to the front but that ended up being a bad move. People had brought more than one piece of Cabin luggage and I couldn’t keep my luggage inside as there was no space. So I checked in my suitcase with my laptop, camera, mp3 and portable hard disk hoping no one steals anything (I could have complained to their ground staff if anything happened but its better to be safe than sorry right?)

This was a full flight I was in so it was really noisy too with many north Indians talking loudly in Hindi. They didn’t have any newspapers or magazines too and the air crew weren’t so good in English (they didn’t even understand when I asked for a pen). Before take off they came to people’s seats confirming a request for Indian Vegetarian meals and it was very chaotic. They should have served Indian Vegetarian meals as a meal choice onboard as many Indians are vegetarians. Not that their meal was all so great! I slept off through the flight as it was very irritating to sit in a window seat and as the flight came to an end, the stinky toilet smell started coming in. Yuck!

In the Delhi Airport, I was the last person to leave the immigration from that flight as the immigration authority was concerned about my stamp not being clear (their fault, not mine! they should put the stamps on properly right?).

Well so that was the end of my China southern experience after a long time and the minute I walked out of that flight I decided not to take China southern unless i really have to.

adaywithoutchocolate.com

Hardik Ruparel — Tue, 22 Jul 2008 20:33:51 +0000

Introducing adaywithoutchocolate.com. It is where I will be blogging from now on and I would request you to update your bookmarks to adaywithoutchocolate.com. I was just trying out something and I ended up on this domain name. Just visit the website and press Ctrl+D on your keyboard to bookmark it. Keep visiting on either of them, preferably the new one, and keep commenting. In case I decide to move back to my wordpress blog, I will let you guys know.

Thanks and Bye. For now head over to my new website mentioned above.. For New posts and articles

Hardik

Random post

a fan — Tue, 22 Jul 2008 20:08:00 +0000

There are some questions in mind which never get answered or rather really scared to answer it or maybe simply just don’t know where to start and what to take into consideration while answering the same…

When i left my previous company, a wise man gave one piece of advice…”See remember one thing,’Experience always gives one a comb after one has become bald’…so try to learn from others experiences and make sure to get the comb when you have some hair itself :)”

well, it’s not as if we don’t know this…but even if we know it, when somebody puts it in a such a succinctly nice way, it always sticks with us…

The thing is, in life, we do take decisions…not stupid ones..but a well thought ones…

we take with some parameters and reasoning into consideration…later, situation changes due to some new parameter…does that mean the decision was wrong in the first place? no…does that mean there was no forethought about the new parameter?…no…does that mean one wasn’t adept to change as per the situation?…maybe..but is it possible for everybody to be adept to these kind of changes…or everybody does it because there is no other way…or one doesn’t make an attempt because there is an alternative way?…not sure…

But the point is, this results in making another decision…so the cycle continues.

so, after so many years in IT industry, got a laptop…spent a considerable amount…

hoping that this is going to be one good investment for many more adventures one is going to experience in the coming months…

now, the adventure can be less intense provided the lot of other factors do play in favour…or it can be worse as well…all one can do is to prepare for the worst and try till there are some chips left…