Coffee With Raghavan about life at Rice University

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CWS is now back in full action after 2 days of outage (especially for people who use airtel broadband) Its my pleasure to welcome Raghavan, alumni of NIT Trichy to share his thoughts about life @ Rice University

Coffee With Raghavan


* Brief Intro about yourself..

I did my bachelors in Computer Science from REC, Trichy. Then I went on to do a Masters from IISc in Computer Science again. After my masters, I joined Microsoft IDC, Hyderabad where I worked for just more than 2 months. I had to give up that job since I didn’t get the work that I expected. Then, I joined a start up company called Synfora in Bangalore, where I worked for a couple of years. I joined Rice University for my PhD program during fall 2007.

* Entry Criteria:

- Approx CGPA range

My CGPA in RECT was 9/10. And at IISc 6.9/8.

Most good universities would consider anything above 3.5

- Research Experience at undergraduage level.

I had done very little during my undergrad. I did a little bit of research during my masters at IISc. It always helps to have some research experience, but it is not a necessity in many universities.

- Gre & Toefl scores range..

My Gre scores were Quants:800, Verbal:490. Toefl:>100 I think the Gre and Toefl scores are more of a formality, atleast for a PhD admit. (I couldn’t have got in otherwise).

- Does the university require subject GRE?

Rice doesnt need a subject Gre, atleast not the CS dept.

Most of the universities that I looked during my admissions listed subject Gre as more of a recommended item. Among the ones I looked at only Rutgers asked for a subj Gre score. I would suggest people to give subject Gre. You can add that in your application if you get a good score. Then it would work to your advantage.

* Aid scenario - #number of ppl who come in with aid, chances of aid after coming in, more details on RA/TA/small work around campus.

The CS dept at Rice gives admission only for a PhD program and that always come with full aid, i.e., a tuition fee waiver and a monthly stipend. We are expected to TA 5 courses as a part of our PhD requirements.

This actually varies with department and university. Most universities that give admit for Masters these days, do not give aid. Only students of that particular dept and univ would be able to give an idea of the situation there.

* how much money should one shell out for the entire course if it completely unfunded..

It could go from around $20000 per annum to $60000 per annum. Rice had estimated the average cost of a student to be $46000 per year (Houston is considered to be a relatively cheaper place).

* What are the living expenses?

I am assuming you wanted to know about how much we spend on various expenses. Typically people here at Rice spend about $400-$500 for rent (incl amenities), $200-$300 for groceries and food (the more you cook, lesser will be the expense), $50 for mobile. If you have a car, which is almost a necessity in cities like Houston, then you would need to spend around $150 per month for gas and insurance. Of course, this is excluding your tuition fees.

* Career opportunities after the course?

The chance of getting a job in a research lab in a good company (in India and US) is pretty good, atleast here at CS dept in Rice. It would help if you work under a professor who has some industry contacts.

If you are looking for an academic position in the US, then there is very little chance that you may get into a univ ranked < 40. And even if you get in you will need to work as hard as you can for about 6 years as an assistant professor to get a tenure. Typically people do Postdoc for about 2 years before they take up an academic position in the US.

A PhD in the US (top 20 univ) is good enough to get an academic position in India (even in IITs and IISc).

* Typical Money made during internships?

PhD students in CS would get about $5000 a month during internships in the US. I have no idea about the money you would make if you do it in India.

* How easy it is to switch departments?

Administratively, I think most universities don’t care which dept you are working in as long as you have an advisor to support you. In a PhD program, the dept supports you for the first year, and from the second year it is the advisor who pays your tuition and stipend. So the univ will allow switching departments as long as you have somebody to support you.

* switch from Phd to MS?

I have seen people who come here for PhD drop out after Masters. That probably will be allowed if you have a valid reason. Anyways, the univ can not force you to continue. But typically here in the CS dept at Rice, you are expected to complete your PhD.

* Any other issues/ inputs which will be helpful.

I would advice you to strongly consider having a very good reco and a decent sop that shows your enthusiam. I feel these two were the clinchers in my case. I had always projected Compilers as my area of research in my sop and also showed how I have been preparing myself for it during my Masters and job. Also I had recos from Profs at IISc who were well known in my area of research.

Getting an admit is only the start of a journey. You should be motivated enough to work for 5 years (sometimes even more) to get a PhD.

All the best.

Thanks a lot Raghavan for sharing this invaluable information. All the best for your Phd.

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Coffee With Shriram Srinivasan about life at TAMU

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Hey All..

Today, we have a very special person on CWS!! The person I am talking about got a 1480 in GRE, which was a record in NIT Trichy for almost 8 months.. This walking dictionary was mechanical engineer @ NIT Trichy.. Its my pleasure to introduce Shriram Srinivasan.. was christened as GREram for heroics in GRE.. To be honest, GREram was one of the best students in mathematics our batch.. If you are considering to apply to TAMU.. you *must* read this interview..

Without further ado, Over to GREram..


Coffee With GREram

*Brief Intro about yourself..


Before I begin, I must say I am not having coffee with Sundar, or anyone for that matter. I never drink coffee since I do not like it…:-) So lets settle for Badam Milk with Sundar. But thats too rustic a name and he will lose all his readers with that one, so perhaps to keep him happy I will just go along and watch him have the coffee :P With those insightful comments, let me introduce myself :-)’

My name is Shriram Srinivasan. I finished my B.Tech in Mechanical Engineering from NIT Trichy in 2006. So as you can guess, I was Sundar’s batchmate, and later on “wingmate” too, as we called it. I am here in TAMU since Fall 2006, pursuing my MS and PhD in the Mechanical Engineering Dept. I am working in Mechanics applied to fluids which entails mainly theoretical/modelling work.





* Entry Criteria:



To talk of TAMU, I will choose my words carefully, because this is no longer an intra-college document where I can speak the way I normally do without mincing words, so some tactful statements are in order :-)

To give a brief overview of TAMU in general, its a very big university with a whole lot of departments. The best departments, in my view, are aero, industrial, petroleum, and civil engg. Of course I take the highly ranked nuclear dept with a pinch of salt because there are hardly a handful of colleges in US with nuclear engg! :-)

First a few words abt each of these depts are in order.


Aero - Consistently ranked highly, aero in TAMU is a great department. They only offer selected admits with funding, and dont deluge their department with Indian students the way Mech or Industrial does. All their research divisions are well funded, though some of it is for US citizens only. As a result , their selection criteria is far stricter than others.

Civil engg - It has sub-departments, Structures, Materials, Ocean, Geotechnical, Transportation, and Environmental. Materials group is probably the best in the US after UIUC, and they are extremely well funded along with Transportation. Ocean engg is something very few Indians go for, but it is an excellent place all the same. Structures is not well funded, though highly ranked. Geotech I do not know much about. Environmental gives out many Indian admits, and their selection process is not very stringent I would say.

Industrial - They are poorly funded, so much so that they fund only their PhDs and rest do an M.E rather than M.S to finish early. They offer an admit to practically whoever applies (for MS that is) since they don’t have funding, and last year they gave out some 60 Indian admits.

Petroleum - Probably the richest department on campus. I do not know much about their admits, but they wallow in dollars :-) And with Houston having so many oil companies, the students wallow in money too :-)

With that I will now come to the Mech Dept. The Mech Dept shares its USP with that of TAMU - the best education at the cheapest price :-). They offer a 50% tuition waiver to practically every student for the first two semesters. Take that with the fact that TAMU is one of the cheapest schools, and its no surprise to see so many students trying for TAMU. The downside is of course that the dept has a selection policy which is, to put it mildly - “less stringent” the way I see it. Last year, in fact , every year, we have a lot of admits from Hyderabad, Bombay, Chennai, and interspersed are admits from NITs and IITs. The NIT crowd, am happy to see is growing :-)





- Approx CGPA range



Based on the tone of my writing, it will be very easy to get deluded into thinking that TAMU admits are given out to everyone who applies. I would hasten to add that it is not so. A common trend I find in all admits to engineering departments is that students often seem to be top rankers or atleast high scorers if they are from private colleges in Bombay, Chennai, Hyderabad, Bangalore etc. There are many people from IITs/NITs with GPA close to 9, in fact, most of the NITT students here (excluding me :-D) have CGPA in 8.5 - 9.0 range. So I would think that academic performance in undergrad is given importance. In EEE specially, I find there are lots of people from BITS (Pilani).

Since I had a GPA of just above 8, I would think that is a reasonable requirement for admission :-) Looking at my case I would surmise that students with lesser GPA generally make up with high GRE scores…


The reason TAMU can give so many admits despite having such selection parameters is due to the sheer number of people who apply. It is that large pool of applicants that allows the admissions committee to give out so many admits without significantly lowering student quality.





- Research Experience at undergraduate level.



Almost everybody here seems to have done the usual things and to be at par with the rest, it would be advisable to do some research at the undergraduate level itself.. For many people, it helps in finally clinching the deal with professors - the fact that you have shown interest and worked. However, I would hasten to add that this seems to hold true only for the younger faculty. The very senior professors are never swayed, and they dont really bother about your research experience at undergraduate level.





- Gre & Toefl scores range..



Its a difficult question to answer. I know of scores from 1200-1500. But on an average I would say its 1300+. TOEFL is just a cut off criteria and not important for selection.





- Does the university require subject GRE?



Not that I know of.





* Aid scenario - #number of ppl who come in with aid, chances of aid after coming in, more details on RA/TA/small work around campus.



Generally everybody is offered the out-of-state tuition waiver for 2 semesters, which amounts to almost 50% of the tuition. Many PhD students, and some exceptional MS students come in with a TA. Students coming in with RA is a matter that depends on the prof. Many profs would like to see how you work etc. before putting their money on you.


Since TAMU is a huge university, you have positions called GANTS (graduate assistants non teaching) in some departments which will pay your tuition and give you a stipend too. These could be, for example, doing some web programming/matlab work in the dept of kinesiology, or some data analysis in the dept of entomology, or work in the helpdesk of the computer centre. Such positions are advertised, and interviews held before selecting a candidate. So in general chances of aid brighten after the first semester. Without quoting figures, I would say that most people find some form of aid by the end of 2 semesters. Web programming/ webmaster type of positions are quite common. However it mostly benefits the cse/eee guys rather than mech :-(


The campus jobs have got tougher with the huge influx of Indians every year. As we all write similar things in the CV, and most are quite proficient in English, it really is a lottery applying in the dining services or as an office assistant :-)





* how much money should one shell out for the entire course if it completely unfunded..



Considering you finish in 2 years, i.e., total 4 semesters (summer not included), and assuming you pay full tuition and fees, you pay $6000 per sem….thats $24,000 for the whole course..living expenses extra… to contrast this….scroll down below and take a look at figures my friend Vikhram has quoted for UIUC in an earlier post. :-D And if you get the 50% tuition waiver which most do…that makes it only $12,000 for the whole course. You will now understand why there is a stampede to apply to TAMU. Its certainly not the best university around, but you get good education and great jobs at the cheapest price! :-)





* What are the living expenses?



I am not very sure about this - lets say $600 per month. The point is if you get any on campus job you will always cover your monthly expenses. Its only the tuition and fees that you should worry about.





* Career opportunities after the course?



Personally, I often feel TAMU is somewhat like NITT in the sense that when you do get a job you often wonder if you are actually worth that much :-D.. To clarify, I certainly wondered when Tata Motors gave me a job! :-P


On a more serious note, people are fond of bandying big words like recession etc. I dont know what it means and I dont really care at this point of time. But I do know, that if you are in the non-circuits, i.e, civil mech, chem, IE, chances are you will most likely be working for an oil company or some energy services company, because every second office in Houston is that. Recruitment in the US is zone wise rather than country wide as in India, so sometimes it can be a problem. Most biomed/biotech companies are in California, hence it becomes a little difficult for those departments. CSE/EEE depts rake in the money as usual :-)





* Typical Money made during internships?



I dont know about this. Depends on whether its a circuit or non circuit. But it would certainly help you pay the fees for the next sem.





* How easy it is to switch departments?



Quite easy. I know lots of people who do that. If you have found a guide/advisor who is a prof in another dept, then his approval is enough. In other cases too changing departments is not that big a hassle.





* switch from Phd to MS?



It is done sometimes due to extenuating circumstances, like if a student loses funding, or due to personal problems he/she cant continue for a PhD. But to address what the question is actually getting at, please do not apply for a PhD just for the lure of funding if you are not sincere about it. Its also fine if you have a TA and then you switch. But once you are being funded by a faculty member, its expected that you be upfront about what your aims actually are. If the prof is irked he can do great damage to your career. So to sum it up, please dont try to fool people.





* Any other issues/ inputs which will be helpful.



The Mech dept has many research groups in it. I will just mention the ones which are particularly notable. The turbomachinery group is very well funded and well known. It has profs working in rotordynamics, heat transfer, seals, etc.

The materials research group is also well funded. Mechanics, both theoretical and computational though not as endowed with funding as some other groups, has some of the best professors in the US. This covers material modelling. viz, elasticity, plasticity, viscoelasticity, fluid mechanics, as well as FEM and computational methods. However, the design aspect is almost nonexistent and we hardly have a couple of profs working on that.So students interested in design, TAMU Mechanical engineering is not the right place.

Another thing I feel quite strongly about is choosing advisors. Getting stuck with the wrong person can sour your experience. I know it seems like a great thing coming in with an RA, but you really dont know what kind of person he is till you come here and find out. And sometimes it doesnt turn out well. So in a place like TAMU, where expenses are not that high, I would suggest that students should not be in a hurry to choose advisors. Spend your first sem taking courses, seeing what you like. By the time your first sem ends, you would alteast know whom to avoid :-)


Another reason is that when you finish undergrad and come here, the areas you thought you liked may not be the ones you actually want to work on. Often you take a graduate course and you might be completely bowled over by a different subject, or a prof in a different area. So its a good thing to keep your options open for a semester so that you choose right. I personally came here thinking CFD and fluid mechanics were synonymous,and that CFD was what I wanted to do. But my first course in continuum mechanics changed all that :-)

Before I end, I must quote some words of wisdom I was given by a senior of mine, who told me that its not a great feeling studying in an Ivy League school with zero funding, trying to finish your courses fast, because you lie on your bed before you sleep thinking of that 15lakh loan and the interest that’s accruing even as you sleep. ;-(


Graduate school is a very enriching experience, and I do wish for every student that you are able to feel the wonder of it, get the best out of it, without letting that student loan in India dictate your decisions. :-)

Wish you all the best!!


GREram, Thank you soo much for these amazing responses… All best with your doctorate..Readers.. as always.. hope you benefitted from this discussion.. For previous episodes of coffee with experts, click here.

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Coffee with Venkatakrishnan about Life at Purdue University

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Hi All,

Continuing with our series of interview for better understanding of life at various universities, today we have a Venkatakrishnan from Purdue University. Venkat comes from NIT Trichy Electronics and Communication department. He completed his B Tech in 2007 and immediately went to Purdue.

So without further ado, it is Coffee with Venkatakrishnan


Coffee with Venkatakrishnan - Life @ Purdue



* Brief Intro about yourself..

I am Venkatakrishnan doing my Masters in Electrical and Computer Engineering at Purdue specializing in Digital Signal Processing and Communications. I passed out of NITT in 2007 from ECE department. In my free time I like to pursue cricket, table tennis, quizzing.

* Entry Criteria:

- Approx CGPA range : 9+

- Research Experience at undergraduage level: Does not seem to be a must. But some project experience is needed. I did do a project at IISc (cant term it anywhere near “research” level) in Speech Processing. Most students I see in Purdue have some experience either in undergrad or it could be in a tech company.

- Gre & Toefl scores range: I would say GRE 1350+ , TOEFL - may be 110 + in IBT.

- Does the university require subject GRE? No.

* Aid scenario:

Aid scenario I would go ahead and say is one of the best among the top schools in USA! .. 99% of PhDs come in with aid …if ur from IIT u get aid even for MS ….i have seen one BITS guy get aid …by aid i mean from ECE department. Departments like CS give aid to all admits i think.. even MS…..

Purdues ECE department almost certainly does not give aid on admit to MS students.. PhD of course area all funded.. What is cool about Purdue is that there are lots of opportunities for funding in other departments…. especially in the Fall semesters.. example is myself who came in unfunded but was a MAth TA in 1st sem and CS TA in the second and now will be back to math in the coming sem… its a bit of running around at the end of each sem but if you try the probability of success is quite high… For any new unfunded admits the places to try are :

Department of Math (for the website and download online forms, fill out and fax it.. else if u get here go personally and apply).. They have a selection criteria based on ur engineering math performance and TOEFL scores…

Once you are selected to be screened, they simulate a classroom by making you go to the board and explain a calculus problem to a class..

If you get through this then ur a math TA… The only point I want to make is the initial screening is based on ur Engineering Math scores and in mathematical subjects…

So if you have a good performance in math related subjects in undergrad you will atleast qualify for the screening…. In screening they basically look for your speaking ability ..

Department of Engineering Education - TA for MATLAB etc …

Department of Computer Science (now its suddenly become tough to get TA here but still try)

College of Technology - Comp Science - Go to the building 3rd floor office and apply there directly..

The secretary will let you know of any openings ..they do not publicize it so you need to make personal visits ..

Department of Chemistry - there may be profs who want some guys who know programming for their projects / simulations …

Library - They offer occassional Assistantships

Speak directly to professors once you get here telling them you are keen on working. There are RA opportunities available now and then.

What you need as prereq are Programming, mathematics… If you are not fluent do learn C,C++.. The more programming you know the better are your chances for

funding outside math atleast in terms of TAs…

RAs will depend on your luck.. Your project experience in the field of interest of the prof …

* How much money should one shell out for the entire course if it completely unfunded..

If unfunded one should be mentally prepared to spend just under $40000 tuition for the whole course

* What are the living expenses?

If you share your room and live like 4 people in a 2 BHK it works out to around 400 dollars a month ..

* Career opportunities after the course?

Decent….. Have all the usual industry majors coming over. The same names that visit our nitt campus :)

* Typical Money made during internships?

For our kind of line ..the pay is in the range of 24-32 dollars per hour. For 40 hours per week… for around 12-14 weeks …

* How easy it is to switch departments?

Not sure about this. I have seen a guy switch from Aero to ECE and he did have some minor issues but managed it never the less.

* How easy it is to switch from Phd to MS?

Not too difficult. Just that they will summon you and ask you the reason if u have give a valid one you are done.

I really discourage doing this intentionally though. It ruins the name of the undergrad college.

* Any other issues/ inputs which will be helpful.

Purdue ECE is a bit rank centric. Sometimes I get this gut feeling that they done even care which undergrad college you are from as long as you are top 3 or so in that college.

The 2 strengths of Purdue ECE is 1) Imaging / Video Processing 2) Nano Electronics

Lots of great work in this area is being done at Purdue ECE

Another interesting observation I made is that getting admits in the Spring sem is lot lot easier.

Funding is tough but in the long run it may be worth it if you are willing to take a chance.

Other than that It is a really awesome place with a lot and lot of Indians, Indian groceries etc. So if you are coming here you need not lug all the Indian food stuff.. you get everything in the campus …


Thank you soo much Venkat for sparing your time and answering these questions.

Readers, hope you enjoyed this edition of Coffee With Experts.. for previous episodes of Coffee with experts, click here.

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Coffee With Vikhram on University of Illinois, Urbana Champaign

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Hi All,


Todays guest is a very good friend of mine.. Vikhram Vilasur Swaminathan a.k.a Vikram studied with me in NIT Trichy in Mech department.. Vicky is the “Vikipedia” of the batch.. :-) All rounder of all rounders.. and ofcourse, was rightly deserved the “Best out going student of NIT Trichy, 2006″.. Needless to say, Vikhram was the department topper.. He rejected the dream job of ITC, NITTians very special dream college IIM Bangalore (People say, the next step out of NIT Trichy is IIM Bangalore).. And eventually went on to pursue a phd at UIUC.. Lets hear from Vicky.. about life @ UIUC


Coffee With Vikhram



* Brief Introduction



I did in my bachelors in Mechanical Engg from NITT and passed out in the batch of 2002-06, with Sundar among the Kandus. I placed my research aspirations over job/IIMB admit and I am presently doing my graduate studies at UIUC. I am looking at continuing on for my PhD too. My interests and experience include Microsystems, Microfabrication and Fuel Cells, with some experience in these areas since undergrad. Off academics, I have been passionate about Lits (ex presi of Balls By Picasso :-)) and Basketball and pursued them actively in college. Nowadays, I also enjoy cooking, some reading and blogging. Along with a classmate of ours (Shriram a.k.a GREram), I have authored a concise guide for apping, titled ROTGAD (Realization Of Great American Dream) and I’ve recently started off a ROTGAD google groups forum with my cousin Srinivas Sridharan (ICE 2003 @ NITT, MS in EE @ UMich, Mathworks and now Quantum Controls PhD in Aus), in our efforts to reach out to junior batches, share fundae about gradschool, ROTGAD and also all that we are continuously learning through the gradschool and technical career experiences.

* Entry Criteria:

Approx CGPA range



Depends on the program. Engineering, Math and Science programs here are very highly rated, and there’s a lot of competition among applicants. Typically a 9-point CGPA or a top 3-5 ranking in your department, plus some research experience. Within the Engineering schools, ECE for Controls, Material Science and Civil are the toughest to get into as the research in these groups are arguably #1 in the country. MechSE, CS and Chemical are tough but an overall good profile would greatly improve your chances. As far as GPA is concerned, I’ve known some people who have apped for General Engineering on account of easier criteria and later on switched to ECE/Mech during the course of their PhD. This of course applies to those whose interests are in Robotics, Control & Decision making, Optimization, Operations Research and the like. MBA and MS-Finanace/Business programs are lesser known and may be easier to crack into.

Research Experience at undergraduate level.



Very very important. UIUC is a thoroughly research oriented school and most faculty work aggressively in their areas of speciality. Moreover, most of their work is either focused on fundamental understanding of phenomena from the very abstract levels, or in the other extreme, pushing the frontiers of cutting edge technology. So it definitely helps to have good research experience under your belt at the undergrad level itself. One thing is that your apps have a better chance (in any school) if you can demonstrate research experience; secondly, it prepares you for your program here and makes the transition smooth and easy. The stuff people do in grad schools is definitely more intense than what we would have tasted before, so research experience helps.

Gre & Toefl scores range..



Typicall 1350+ (Q770+) and 4.5+ in AWA (I managed only 1380 with V580. Q800 and 5.5 AWA). As in the case of any school, GRE is not the be all and end all of an admit. A good score keeps your chances alive, a bad one may hurt. TOEFL requirements are generally visa specific and are common for all schools. The TOEFL iBT or TSE score can come in handy in fetching you chances of TA and visa through that form of aid if offered.

Does the university require subject GRE?



None of the Engg programs here require subject GRE as far as I know. However, people also submit these scores and I believe this improves chances with the app.

Aid scenario - #number of ppl who come in with aid, chances of aid after coming in, more details on RA/TA/small work around campus.



Aid scenario (Engineering) at UIUC is generally very good. The school is very well supported by State funding, alumni endowments, reputed faculty (many who are distinguished chairs and/or supported by massive NSF/DARPA/NAVY/DOE grants). Since the ratio of PhD to MS admits is greater than 50%, most people admitted are almost assured of funding. PhDs normally enter with full RA support (rarely TA) and MS applicants compete for the limited TA positions. The top 2-3 distinguished apps in each department get fellowships. UIUC generally does not admit excessively without offering aid. On an avge, 80% of all engg grads have RA/TA/fellowships. I am neutral about chances of getting aid after joining since very few people need to search for funds after landing here. But even those generally get their RA/TA within a semester or two of joining. I’ve not known any Engg grad going dry through the entire program.

MBA and finance programs are not supported, for obvious reasons. It doesn’t hurt much here because these are only 1-1.5 yrs long.

There are other sources of funding like Fullbright, DOE, Motorola, IBM fellowships which are open to international students and these are awarded based on initial performance/merit here and past excellence. Caterpillar’s research center here offers RA positions for Mech/Civil/Aero students. Some computer/tech support centres offer RA or hourly employment. Even if you don’t get the tuition waiver, grading positions fetch decent hourly wages. Other small work such as library jobs etc are also readily available.

How much money (in Rupees) should one shell out for the entire course if it completely unfunded..



Though it is a state Univ and well supported, UIUC is a fairly expensive school. The tuition and fees for a full year are typically around USD 24000 for Engg grads. Add to it living expenses in a Midwest county that is probably 3 fold cheaper than NY or Bay area, and most of it can be managed with a part-time job itself. I would estimate something in the whereabouts of Rs 10-12 lakh per annum as expenses here assuming that you’d be employed even with just a part-time job. Ofcourse people don’t generally have to spend that much.

What are the living expenses?



A comfy life (one room to yourself in a 2/3 BR house), occassional cooking and fairly frequent eating outside can be managed for within USD 800-900 per month. People with funding can afford their indulgences, ipods, roadtrips etc as Champaign-Urbana is not too expensive. :-)

Career opportunities after the course?



Generally very good. The univ’s brand name helps everywhere, even when you write to companies outside. The career fair here is popular and lots of reputed companies come down for the briefing and shortlisting, following which all depends on your talents and experience. Many people from outside schools visit our career fair, which explains.

As far as PhD scholars are concerned, all depends on their research (industry/academically oriented), the quality of their work, their advisors’ outreach in the field and openings. Most people get good offers from industry and those who do theoretical/computational work also join national labs. The very best compete for the few and far between academic positions.

In general, opportunities for a UIUC grad are generally very good compared to other schools, thanks to the brand name and distinguished alumni record. Beyond that talent counts and people end up with good offers.

Typical Money made during internships?



Very hard to say. Few go on internships and even among those who do, the deviation about the mean in terms of pay is very high (almost 100%). I think the money aspect is not very important so long as you are not looking at saving for going dry with semester funding, which is anyway not possible. Of course those who end up interning early and with big monies get nice cars :-) My advisor as a matter of policy prefers that we do our research here in summer..

How easy it is to switch departments?



Very easy indeed, on paper. All depends on what our research interests are and whether you satisfy the criteria of the dept you look to transfer into. In my opinion, the competition is very high during aping. Once here, everyone is on par at a level playing field and there’s a lot of flexibility. Normally, MS students don’t transfer but some of the depts. Have a MS-MBA or MS Engg-MS finance like option which people exploit. Ofcourse the catch is that your home department won’t support you with funds during the MBA/ MS-finance leg of your dual degree.

As for PhDs, everything again boils down to research. Most profs here hold multiple appointments across disciplines and have students from different branches working of different aspects of multidisciplinary projects. Naturally in the process, students are likely to change their branch depending on the direction in which their research proceeds. Any department welcomes you so long as you clear their PhD qualifying examination and satisfy the program requirements in terms of courses and research on the way to your PhD.

switch from Phd to MS?



I think this is a very potent and dangerous option which should be at best avoided, unless under dire circumstances. In a school like UIUC, few would enter into the school with such a plan. Of course, there are many who are forced to take this decision due to excessive research pressure or them realizing that the PhD doesn’t meet their expectations, aspirations and interests. Some also unfortunately convert to MS on funding issues. In UIUC, most departments admit students (without MS) on a grad program status, which could be both MS/PhD. If you clear the qualifying exam then you are automatically a PhD candidate and the MS is purely optional. On the other hand if you are unable across multiple attempts, then you can graduate with just the MS. That you come for a PhD and you get full RA support from your advisor is a tacit understanding between the two of you that you are seriously focused towards the PhD. It is hard to imagine leaving a prof high and dry and is not a nice thing to do. Of course people end up quitting after masters and some also do that very easily provided there is a valid reason.

So my point here is that, PhD to MS conversion is very much possible but it is not very easy. I would strongly discourage and advise against people apping for PhDs for merely the funding chances or with ideas of getting in and at the very beginning itself formulating plans to quit early or defect to non-engg streams. The engineering school in UIUC is anyway way better than the B-school!

Any other issues/ inputs which will be helpful.



Since this interview is based entirely on apping fundae and stuff I’ve mentioned here is relevant to most other schools with similarly ranked and research oriented programs (eg: Stanford, Berkeley, MIT, CMU, UMich, GaTech, Cornell, UCSB, UCSD etc), I would encourage junta to consider more things than just the bare essentials (GRE/TOEFL, SOPs, CV, References) that we generally concentrate on with our apps. Research experience counts in a big way, and since you are in all likelihood looking at pledging 5 years of hardwork, it is also good to find out about who you’d like to work with (or who you’d rather not) and what really interests you. Compatibility b/w your working style and your advisor’s could make a lot of difference in determining whether your PhD is a breeze or a whirlwind of turbulence. The best thing to do is to contact students in these schools (even if they may not be from NITT), read through profs and research groups’ websites, their papers and get a feel for stuff. Write to profs; they like to communicate with people who are interested and this also improves chances besides you getting a lot of useful info.

For the benefit of those who are still in NITT or have passed out: we are running this online ROTGAD forum to ensure that people can get help in addressing their subject/interest specific queries during apping. We’ve learnt a lot about the whole system and how it works only after coming here and are glad to share all of this for your benefit. Please look at sources like Rotaract grad apps talk and the ROTGAD document for the basics and try to get in touch with seniors in your areas for specifics. Also, please DO NOT be shy of apping to the bigger and higher ranked univs. It is only good to be ambitious :-)


A very special thanks to Vikhram, for giving such detailed and elaborate answers.. You can also contact Vikhram @ VIKHRAM DOT VS AT GMAIL COM regarding apping, rotgad etc..

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